if jehovah and jesus see fit to allow women to be a part of the ruling elite in heaven for a thousand years , who are the g.b.to deny them that privelidge on earth ?
the basis of family life since adam & eve is the complimentary balance of male and female input ,so shouldnt that rule also apply to the governing of a christian congregation ?.
smiddy.
Or they rule as KINGS and PRIESTS which were only men that held those positions. The scripture says over the earth. That doesn't necessarily mean they are in heaven ruling over the earth. We have governments and high officials ruling over the earth right now. Who's to say when Jesus comes and does his seperateing work that that's when the 144.000 is picked? When he turns darkness into light and the abundance of knowledge becomes real. It's a wait and see.
Just a thought
watchtower cult shuts down websites to coverup pedophilia letters.. http://www.cyberwarzone.com/watchtower-cult-shuts-down-websites-coverup-pedophilia-letters.
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Or just last year behind bethel headquarters the brothers were made to tear the red covers off the live forever in paradise book and the paper was going to a recycle manufacturer. There was a huge pile out back, we saw it!
Or the fact when we learned of this site and were discovering the truth about the truth, we asked some of the questions to an elder and his reply was " are you going to keep it to yourselves?" and we said yes. He told us you wouldn't want to tell anyone especially new ones or spiritually weak ones of our findings. He told us if we have anymore questions to only come to him but when we did he would be surprised and tell us he would get back to us but never did. Instead the cobe cornered us and wanted to know if we were doubting that there's a faithful and discreet slave. That was nine months ago and our last time we were in the hall and NOONE, no elders have come to see us. I think we got thrown away like those outdated letters. They want us forgotton and that's fine with us.
i was wondering how a baptised jw see wordly people?
i mean what do they think of people who arent jw ?
do they think we will die forever and that we are controlled by satan?
When I was in the lie, I saw drunken elders and wives, elders kids post themselves nude on facebook while drunk and underage along with sex before marriage and got rewarded with going to bethel fulltime. PO's who knew brothers were living with worldly women and kept it quiet yet gave a local needs on marrying outside the lord, the same brother who was paying for prostitutes in his previous twelve year marriage as well, another brother who was seeing hookers throughout his marriage before his wife gets disfellowshipped for fornication, husbands who bashed in their wives car by hand, who also got a worldly girl to forge a legal document, who had affairs right after they got reinstated, another brother who was doing esctacy and committing adultry while wify is at home expecting their first child, a sister who stole from the kingdom hall funds and admitted it and gets to go on the RBC, an ms's wife who is allowed to get her ass tatooed and her two kids as well and he's not removed, or two families who allowed their two kids to get married twice to the same two people ; that's four weddings for two couples, or a sister getting caught stealing all the food loading her vehicle up at the beginning of the reception, a sister who had her pedophile just out of jail son live with her and come to the meetings, ect,,,, Not once when I was in the world did I see these things, only heard of them or read about them. This was all in the first three years of me being in the lie. Most of this was reported and nothing was done. Oh, and when an elder wanted to go after a brother who had stolen a car from a dealership and police involved, the elder who tried to do something about it was removed. Why? The thiefs father was on the elder body.
It just seems there's always rewards for such hypocrasies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I was wondering what the stand societies rule is when a married couple goes on holiday with a bunch of worldly people. Would that be a nono in this "so called christian" religion??????? Is there a local needs or anything?
something happened recently by the wts.
that doesn't rarely often and that is the wts.
executive editors apologizing for the organization's past mistakes and proclamations.
It's just motion of the lips. Like when an elder apologised to me saying we don't know what we did but we're sorry. If you don't know what you've done then your not sorry. These guys are sorry only because they got caught and now with more leaveing they realise the word is out. That not even their disfellowshipping threats can put a hush on this and their other sinister deceptions. This is now out of their control and they are fainting out of fear. They are wicked wicked wicked!
so it has been over a month, maybe closer to two that i haven't attended a meeting.
my stress level has gone way down, and my life is pretty good right now.
well as you know, there are tons of nosy witnessess.
Be very loving and patient with your mom. I had left the religion at fifteen and didn't come back untill I was forty and was in it for nine years and left. Everytime I would visit mom she would beg for me to come back to Jehovah and one day I told her I had to get off the phone or I would say something that I would regret down the road. She asked if I would call her in three weeks and I said yeah what ever. Three weeks went by and I got a phone call saying that she had died. I didn't know she was going in to have her leg amputated and she had taken a bottle of painkillers just before her surgery. While she was in recovery she had a massive heart attack. We found this out from the lady that was sharing a room with her. She said she should have spoken up but mom always talked about not wanting to live anymore. The religion sure can mess with peoples lives.
With what I know now, I would have sat down with her and asked why is she in it and then told her those reasons she picked aren't your own. That your truly searching for answers that your not allowed to question. Reassure her of your love for her and that you won't go do anything stupid or get yourself df'd. Just leave it alone untill she brings it up again. It will become a habit with her to ask but it won't be as shocking as it is when she first finds out that you left. When she starts to hear the happiness in your voice, hopefully that alone will be enough for her to back off and not nag you about it. Also reassure her that you will never lose your love for Jesus or Jehovah. This will tell her you haven't turned your back on them either.
I wish you well and wish I could have my mom back.
please give any examples you've heard of jws verbalizing cognitive dissonance , delusional reasoning .
in other words crazy jw logic .like.
one jw mother recently told her son " even if you did have proof it wasn't the truth, i wouldn't want to read it".
Even if the governing body was wrong, you listen to them! as the CO hammers his fist down on the podium on the platform during his boring talk. Come to think of it, there was a brother who slept through that noise as well.
recently we had the 'privilege' of attending our local special assembly day.
the theme for this year was safeguard your conscience, and you guessed it, they looked up every reference to the word 'conscience' in the bible and then wrote a talk about each one.
it was most definitely a case of "pack your bags, we're going on a guilt trip.".
There was this cute ilttle couple that didn't get married in the hall and you should of heard this elders wife go on staying if you don't get married in a hall it's usually because the couple have had premarital sex. Guess who went to that cute little couples wedding?
Also, show me in the organisation book where you put little cut-out paper dolls on a huge board at the front of the hall with peoples names on them and different colors to show who is pioneer, aux, ect...
i jus got dissfellowshiped at th last week..i feel like dying..i attended th meetings yesterday and ita ws jus horrible..came back home in tears....... people i used to cal my friends nw cant look me in the eye..so heartbroken confused and giving up on life !.
Don't look a gift horse in the mouth. You've just been given your freewill back to you. Something that these idiots at WT took away. Freewill that was given to you from Jehovah!!!!!! Things will get better. I'm not df'd but am treated as such. After the other day in a parking lot, a sister came up to me and acted lovey dovey and the first words were why aren't you at the meetings and why are you avoiding my questions and was screaming before I left. Think of how you don't have to put up with that bullsh@T! Wishing you all the best, you'll be ok, listen to everyone here.
my experience, and shame on me.
in a snowstorm in pa on a highway, i ran out of gas.. this was one of many mistakes for the evening.
the general rule is that a person should stay in the car and wait for help.
We were horseback riding far into the Mexican mountains in blazeing hot humid weather. I was thirsty and so we stopped at a little rustic hut and bought a coco loco beverage. It was a coconut filled with rum or vodka. I drank the whole thing. Was a little tipsy so hubby cupped his hands and I put my foot in and he lifted me up over the horse. Literally, I went over my horse, missed the saddle and onto the ground flat on my nose. Thank god the alchohol numbed the pain somewhat. I thought I was dead. Both the horse and hubby stood there just stareing along with the rest of the locals that were there.
title of article "do you regularly check the information board?".
yes they are going to have a part telling people to go read the board in back!
still not using the evil term "bulletin board" eh wts?.
I agree with Tikil. A young brother had not looked at the board to see he had a talk that evening and when he was announced to go up he was clueless. That was the same evening an announcement was made that he was made an MS.
